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The Septuagint added 100 years to the birthdates of the first five patriarchs versus the dates which appear in the Masoretic and Samaritan texts. It is no surprise then, that the Vulgate faithfully translated the shorter chronological numbers in the Hebrew text that had been corrupted and changed in 160 AD at Zippori. --Mcorazao 21:21, 9 May 2007 (UTC), Eccl1212 has changed the ISBN of the Stuttgart vulgate from (.mw-parser-output cite.citation{font-style:inherit}.mw-parser-output .citation q{quotes:"\"""\"""'""'"}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-free a,.mw-parser-output .citation .cs1-lock-free a{background:linear-gradient(transparent,transparent),url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Lock-green.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited a,.mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration a,.mw-parser-output .citation .cs1-lock-limited a,.mw-parser-output .citation .cs1-lock-registration a{background:linear-gradient(transparent,transparent),url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Lock-gray-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription a,.mw-parser-output .citation .cs1-lock-subscription a{background:linear-gradient(transparent,transparent),url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Lock-red-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .cs1-subscription,.mw-parser-output .cs1-registration{color:#555}.mw-parser-output .cs1-subscription span,.mw-parser-output .cs1-registration span{border-bottom:1px dotted;cursor:help}.mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background:linear-gradient(transparent,transparent),url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Wikisource-logo.svg")right 0.1em center/12px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output code.cs1-code{color:inherit;background:inherit;border:none;padding:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cs1-hidden-error{display:none;font-size:100%}.mw-parser-output .cs1-visible-error{font-size:100%}.mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{display:none;color:#33aa33;margin-left:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-format{font-size:95%}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-left,.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-wl-left{padding-left:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-right,.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-wl-right{padding-right:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .citation .mw-selflink{font-weight:inherit}ISBN 3-438-05303-9) to (ISBN 1598561782). In the second preface (which I do not have before me, unfortunately) the editors defend at least one of their readings by saying that the correct reconstruction of a particular verse, concerning which they had been criticized, could hardly be described as a reading at all, since almost no one had ever read it. Back around 1990, the present author heard a lecturer on archeology say that since the Septuagint (LXX) had an extra 1000 years in the genealogical list found in Genesis 11, he felt it permissible to date civilizations 1000 years earlier than what the Masoretic text would allow. Re different versions of the Vulgate produced by Jerome, I believe that this actually refers to different versions of the Psalter, and not the Vulgate as a whole. septuagint is from the planet sepultra and vulgates are from vagrea you don't wanna mix the two bad bad energy. The last point that I’d like to make, is the small difference in emphasis between “ferebatur” and “επεφερετο.” The traditional description of the spirit as “rushing over the waters” doesn’t really give us an accurate sense of what the fathers were thinking if these two are the words that they read. Scholars have been discussing this issue for millennia, but one aspect of this debate has garnered considerable attention in our circles recently: the Masoretic (MT) vs. Septuagint (LXX) debate. The Aland edition is now in the catholic section. The KJV translators used the Textus Receptus to avoid translating from the Vulgate but it turned out that even Textus Receptus used the Vulgate so lots of Vulgate translations entered the KJV that way, but also the KJV translators referenced the Douay-Rheims. A collection of readings showing the least Vetus Latina influence? Rwflammang 16:51, 25 June 2007 (UTC), Iarann (talk) 07:01, 25 January 2008 (UTC), Relation of Nova Vulgata (and Novum testamentum latine) to Vulgate. He had a passion for apologetics, was an academic, wrote commentaries, and even earned positive remarks from St. Augustine. Augustine's Discussion of the Septuagint in his City of God. In the second verse it is necessary to discuss the various meanings of inanis and vacua v. αορατος and ακατασκευστος their Greek renderings. For ease of reading, the two passages that I’m referring to are repeated below: Ἐν ἀρχῂ ἐποίησεν ὁ θεὸς τὸν οὐρανὸν καὶ τὴν γῆν. Since it is likely, in the cases of the Vulgate and Septuagint, that the authors were very educated and probably meant the same thing, but were forced by the exigencies of their languages to choose certain words with various meanings, a concord of the definitions of two of these words probably sheds some light on the translators intention, and if he was a good translator, what the Hebrew actually says. But I do object to your characterization of the NTL as non-critical. A "critical edition," in my line of work (Classics professor) and also for Biblical scholars, is an editor's attempt to consistently reconstruct some old text. The information in it did not cite sources, and frankly smells like original research. Is Jerome’s Latin Vulgate, which is the official Bible of the Church, based on the Masoretic Text? In 1546 the Council of Trent decreed that the Vulgate was the exclusive Latin authority for the Bible. It is no surprise then, that the Vulgate faithfully translated the shorter chronological numbers in the Hebrew text that had been corrupted and changed in 160 AD at Zippori. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. If we are to say that the Bible has been inspired, we need to know what it contains. Especially when you have a difference like whether or not Methuselah survived the flood. So is the benedictine edition dispite the fact that it was never "official" (whatever that means) and was most definitely a critical edition. It later says the psalter was published in 1969. 1 Esdras (Esdras A /) and 2 Esdras are one pair of double traditions found in Septuagint collections (see as well the double traditions of Daniel and Esther). Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. The apocryphal additions to Esther, on the other hand, start right out by mentioning God and explaining exactly how He was at work. TomHennell 11:12, 29 January 2007 (UTC), I don't have a problem with your moving of the text at all, in fact, I approve of it. The Bible was first translated into Latin during the fourth century, and it was referred to as the Vulgate. He did not consider canonical to be a synonym for scriptural. I'm still awaiting an example of where the Nova's spelling deviates from the Clementina's. “Ferebatur” along with the sense of “to rush” also has the sense of “to ravage,” or “to attack.” This sense of violence is even more enhanced in the Greek επεφερετο, as it consists of επι + φερω (of a similar derivation as Latin fero), tweaking the word slightly and causing to it have a greater sense of urgency and violent interaction with its object than just φερω alone. In short, the Nova Vulgata authors did include large bits from the Vulgate, but I am sure they would never claim they were offering up the Vulgate. A third level of meaning however, also must be appreciated. I have just now literally opened my Stuttgart Vulgate at random. cannot be described as an attempted reconstruction of Jerome's text. Strictly speaking, of the texts you mention only the Peshitta and Vulgate are truly "Bibles" (in the traditional sense). Even a Catholic (which I was raised) knows what version or at least has heard the version of Psalm 23 which begins "The LORD is my shepherd: I shall not want..." The same cannot be said of the Douay's "The Lord ruleth me: and I shall want nothing..." a literal rendering of the Vulgate's "Dominus regit me: nihil mihi deerit..." posted by User:Simonapro, There is an inconsistancy in the Nova Vulgata section. The purpose of this blog is to elucidate certain scriptural passages, phrases, and ideas, so that they might be given the most faithful reading relative to what was originally intended. Rwflammang 15:58, 3 July 2006 (UTC). by Fr. I picked this example at random, and I don't have time to produce more, but I can guarantee you many more results if you look at texts whose Hebrew originals were as difficult for Jerome as Isaiah. In the beginning God created heaven and earth. In the beginning God created heaven and the earth, The earth was unseen [invisible] and unwrought, and darkness was over the abyss, and breath of God bore down upon the water. modern translations; and the modern English translations of 4 Esdras from the Vulgate (scholarship’s 4 Ezra, 5 Ezra, and 6 Ezra), such as in the NRSV. But a critical edition of a Latin text would not "correct" the old Latin texts in this way. Many thanks! You’re currently reading “Genesis 1:1 Septuagint and Vulgate Comparison,” an entry on Credo Ut Intellegam. The canonical book of Esther is a beautiful, if enigmatic, story. The present Vulgate contains elements which belong to every period of its development, including (1) an unrevised Old Latin text of the Book of Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, 1 and 2 Maccabees, and Baruch; (2) an Old Latin form of the Psalter, which Jerome corrected from the Septuagint; (3) Jerome’s free translation of the books of Job and Judith; What is the qualitative difference between these two editions? The Latin Vulgate follows the Greek enumeration as well and, traditionally, Roman Catholic Bibles used … His opinion of what books are considered more important than others is just an opinion. The article says correctly of the NTL (and I didn't put it in there), "The text is a reprinting of the New Testament of the Nova Vulgata." The Vulgate is approved via decree of the council of Trent. The Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft may have sown some of this confusion when they printed little rows of variants at the bottom of pages. The Septuagint was around the 2nd century BC while the Vulgate was from the 4th century AD so definitely the LXX, however the main benefit of the Vulgate in my opinion would be the inclusion of 4 Esdras which is basically the jewish Book of Revelation but goes unacknowledged to this day. 5. But Jerome ignored Augustine and used the newer Hebrew sources instead, only referring to the Septuagint when necessary to resolve difficulties from Hebrew into Latin. Indeed, St. Jerome used the Septuagint to begin his translation of the Vulgate Old Testament in 382 ce. καὶ ἐγένετο ὡς ἀπῆλθον ἀπ᾽ αὐτῶν εἰς τὸν οὐρανὸν οἱ ἄγγελοι, οἱ ποιμένες ἐλάλουν πρὸς ἀλλήλους, Διέλθωμεν δὴ ἕως Βηθλέεμ καὶ ἴδωμεν τὸ ῥῆμα τοῦτο τὸ γεγονὸς ὃ ὁ κύριος ἐγνώρισεν ἡμῖν. Test case for accuracy of LXX vs. Masoretic: Shem as Melchizedek. Rather, it is a Latin version that chooses to follow an old Latin text (the Vulgate, apart from a few exceptions you mention) only when its editors believe that the Vulgate is in agreement with the (critically edited and interpreted) original (Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek) text of the Bible. By adding 100 years to the birthdates of the first five patriarchs, this shifts their times of death to before the birth of Jared (960) and the generations of Methuselah and Lamech. 384 AD: Vulgate by Jerome: 4114 AD Latin translation of Hebrew. Rather the spirit, in this text is already portrayed as going to work in creation, “ravaging” “rushing at,” “storming,” from the very beginning. In principio creavit Deus caelum et terram 2) terra autem erat inanis et vacua et tenebrae super faciem abyssi et spiritus Dei ferebatur super aquas. Jerome's flights of purple writing! 2) The psalms are rather more extensively changed than most of the rest of the text, but are still quite similar to the psalters of older editions. That said there are a few things about this passage that deserve to be mentioned. I just can't tell what they were after. When Jerome was creating the Latin Vulgate in the late 300’s, St. Augustine warned him to use the Septuagint, as it was the version of Scripture that Jesus and the Apostles used. 3) The three apocrypha are omitted. The contributors danced around the question but didn't clearly answer it or say that the answer is unknown. I'd say its most extreme departure in most of the text is its divergence from the punctuation of the Clementine, which is not something that most people care much about, and at any rate earlier editions also diverged in punctuation. The question was whether "versio vulgata" refers to language or style. Can anyone give me an example of how the Nova Vulgata's spelling is more classical than the Clementina's? septuagint is from the planet sepultra and vulgates are from vagrea you don't wanna mix the two bad bad energy. The term revision has been much abused in English versions of the Bible. Many thanks for the clarification of the terminology - though I would hope that most of that could be put off into another Wiki article, in the belief that point should not be at issue here. Another interesting feature show up in our next pairing: vacua, translating as “empty, void, unpeopled,” with ακατασκευαστος, which translates: “not properly prepared, unwrought, unformed.” Thankfully, these definitions are parallel, and not opposing. (Then, of course, this became ironically fossilized until the 20th century in the Catholic church.) Now, I'm not denying that this information can be useful; nor do any other Protestants I've talked to. More specifically, the current discussion is over the respective chronologies found in those two manuscrip… I'm removing the clause for now because I can't think of good way to make the original editor's point: The clause implied that Jerome was in favor of removing the Apocrypha from the Vulgate. So here are the two versions: aquam ebullire facit ignis, The very reason for these translations is that there existed an audience familiar with Greek and Latin, but not with Hebrew. The old edition from the ABS is searchable, the new Hendrickson is not. Does anybody know of credible sources that say otherwise? And of course, the Old Testment of the Greek Church has always been the LXX - itself directly translated from the Hebrew before the Christian era. Can someone characterize Jerome's Latin more informatively than this blurb? And so when analyzing the theology of the fathers, it might be advisable to keep in mind that a static “spirit over the waters” is probably not the first and foremost image in their minds. But that is most emphatically not the case here. They are both described as 4th editions, but Amazon says that the new edition is 39 pages shorter and is issued by Hendrickson Publishers rather than the ABS. The earth, however, was void and empty and darkness was over the form of the abyss, and the spirit of God was borne over the waters. Even at my level I know that this is not a discriminating Latinist who is writing this. Frankly, in many cases all you have to do is to read them and it's clear they're not of the same calibre as the canonical books. The text misleadingly infers that the whole of the Old Testament was thus translated. The article is in manifest error when it says, "Kurt and Barbara Aland published the New Testament of the Vulgate as Novum Testamentum Latine." You are correct. Augustine's Discussion of the Septuagint in his City of God. But it's out of place to imply that it was perfect in any sense. 2. I propose abolishing the whole Catholic vs. critical distinction, I do not see how it is useful, and returning to the chronological order. Keep in mind that, This page was last edited on 17 October 2020, at 17:14. Following the Renaissance, a common opinion among some humanists was that the LXX translators bungled the translation from the Hebrew and that the LXX became more corrupt with time. The ancient Jewish translation of the Psalms into Greek (the Septuagint) placed the Psalms in the same order but made different divisions between Psalms, resulting in 150 Psalms but with a numbering that is off by one through most of the Psalter; Orthodox Christians continue to use that numbering system. It is a major departure in only three ways, all of which are noted in the article: 1) It follows the Vetus Latina rather than the Vulgate in Thobi and Iudith. Saint Jerome was a translator and was in no position to canonize the books of the bible. Change ). Most of my Bibles are translated into English from the Masoretic Text, the NA or UBS Greek text, and the Greek Septuagint (most also infrequently referring to the Vulgate). ἡ δὲ γῆ ἦν ἀόρατος καὶ ἀκατασκευστος, καὶ σκότος ἐπάνω τῆς ἀβύσσου, καὶ πνεῦμα θεοῦ ἐπεφέρετο ἐπάνω τοῦ ὕδατος. Rwflammang 14:53, 1 July 2006 (UTC), The source for these inconsistent data seems to be [1], which is a polemical essay directed against the Nova Vulgata. The Douay-Rheims is an english translation of the Vulgate. Rwflammang 18:07, 8 February 2007 (UTC), Kudos to editor 203.152.122.129, who contributed much to the readability of this article in one fell swoop. When Jerome was creating the Latin Vulgate in the late 300’s, St. Augustine warned him to use the Septuagint, as it was the version of Scripture that Jesus and the Apostles used. The Septuagint and Vulgate predate the Masoretic Text by 1300 and 600 years respectively. He lived from AD 347-419and pursued a monastic lifestyle. The sources of the many differences between the Septuagint, the Latin Vulgate and the Masoretic text have long been discussed by scholars. I suspect that there are at least three levels of possible meaning we can take from the comparisons of these two texts. He can't and couldn't canonize the bible. The first verse is clear and unambiguous in the both texts. The New Jerusalem Bible is my favorite. (Just compare the 2nd and 4th columns on of the psalter comparison here.) The only variant in the Stuttgart's apparatus is atque for aquae. Rwflammang 20:14, 25 March 2007 (UTC). The present Vulgate contains elements which belong to every period of its development, including (1) an unrevised Old Latin text of the Book of Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, 1 and 2 Maccabees, and Baruch; (2) an Old Latin form of the Psalter, which Jerome corrected from the Septuagint; (3) Jerome’s free translation of the books of Job and Judith; The Septuagint added 100 years to the birthdates of the first five patriarchs versus the dates which appear in the Masoretic and Samaritan texts. 2. John Whiteford. Jerome knew that the Jewish scribes had never considered these books to be part of their canon of Scripture, and for that reason he put them in separate sections. I agree that the Douay Version (and its revision by Challoner, which I may mention drew heavily from the KJV) is the closest translational equivalent of the Latin Vulgate in English. Those are our first two levels of meaning that can be taken from a comparative analysis: the translators intent becomes manifest, and through our knowledge of that intent, some light is shed on the Hebrew text behind both translations. That the Septuagint is the most authoritative text in the Orthodox Church is something that is confirmed in just about any Orthodox catechetical text you could consult. Test case for accuracy of LXX vs. Masoretic: Shem as Melchizedek. If the article were discussing the Ethiopic Bible, then the list of protocanon, deuterocanon and apocrypha would look very different - but it isn't. The Latin Scriptural tradition predates the extant Masoretic texts, which are also later than Jerome. They might be based on the Vulgate using the LXX and the MT for purposes of comparison (e.g., to decide between disputed renderings), but the Vulgate was the base text used by most Western Catholics. 400 AD: Augustine: believed both 5554 BC and 4114 BC were inspired. Since it is likely, in the cases of the Vulgate and Septuagint, that the authors were very educated and probably meant the same thing, but were forced by the exigencies of their languages to choose certain words with various meanings, a concord of the definitions of two of these words probably sheds some light on the translators intention, and if he was a good translator, what the Hebrew actually says. There is obviously a larger disagreement here, in that you believe that the Nova Vulgata is an edition of Jerome's Vulgate in any of its books ("a minor revision of 70 of the 76 books of the Clementine vulgate... a major departure in only three ways"). This verse is a good specimen of what I called 20th-century Latin prose composition: the NV editors have used their modern understanding of a non-Latin (Hebrew) original to produce a totally new Latin translation. Rocinante9 2006-08-17, I agree. 152 views. One of the responders answered that the question of whether the translation can be considered simpler or not cannot be answered definitively, but this wasn't the question that was asked. I also think that the S.V. And so, because Eastern and Western Christianity have developed along different lines, and because differences are typically more interesting than similarities, I will, as a rule, point out what the likely differences are between the two readings. So did the Jewish historian Josephus. I believe that the comment in the article regarding the Nova's spelling reform is false, and I plan to delete it soon unless someone convinces me I'm wrong. I am unable however, due to my ignorance of Hebrew, to verify this theory empirically. It's not so much that I think it is wrong, just besides the point. A certain tension is preserved by the words επανω and super, that prevents us from saying that the spirit was somehow interacting directly with the water. Most of my Bibles are translated into English from the Masoretic Text, the NA or UBS Greek text, and the Greek Septuagint (most also infrequently referring to the Vulgate). I think perhaps that removing one or both of the inconsistent statements should be our short term fix. This page, however, is intended to provide a brief history and description of only the versions covered in the accompanying tables: the Authorized Version (the basis of the NAF's names), the Hebrew text, the Septuagint, the Greek New Testament, the Latin Vulgate and the Douai-Rheims. The two words above discussed though, do carry much more meaning and immediate activity than is expressed in the traditional rendering. 3. Doops 04:55, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC). Furthermore, the Vulgate was not in a standard edition, with both Jerome's translation of the LXX Psalms and the Hebrew form of the Psalms being interchanged in various manuscripts of the middle ages. ( Log Out /  The translations as given are the results of my first impulse with relation to each word, and thus, in many cases the differences seen in translation may be a function of how well I know my Latin and Greek. The New Jerusalem Bible is my favorite. a. Jews today believe that Shem is Melchizedek because the Masoretic chronology has Shem living down past the birth of Jacob. ἡ δὲ γῆ ἦν ἀόρατος καὶ ἀκατασκευστος, καὶ σκότος ἐπάνω τῆς ἀβύσσου, καὶ πνεῦμα θεοῦ ἐπεφέρετο ἐπάνω τοῦ ὕδατος. apparently the vulgates attacked the septuagint over a land formation known as the mount of heavenly odors *this is an english translation there is no word in english for this mountain. Jerome never showed any inclination for the notion, so widespread today, that the Bible should omit the Apocrypha. On occasion Jerome applies the term "Septuagint" (Septuaginta) to refer to the Hexaplar Septuagint, where he wishes to distinguish this from the Vulgata or Common Septuagint. The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Septuagint contain the books that Luther rejected. The Septuagint text is the text that the Church has preserved. This is a different Old Testament to that used by the early Christian/Jews and the Apostles who quote from the Septuagint in the NT. The earliest known use of the term Vulgata to describe the "new" Latin translation … The most widely accepted view today is that the Septuagint provides a reasonably accurate record of an early Hebrew textual variant that differed from the ancestor of the Masoretic text as well as those of the Latin Vulgate, where both of the latter seem to have a more similar textual heritage. This is why, in principle, it is not a critical edition of anything. a facie tua gentes turbentur. The fact that what you see on the right is not a critical edition of an old Latin text is proven by the fact that there is no difference between its meaning and the meaning of the Greek text on the left! LXX Biblical Timeline – Bible Research ToolsThis Biblical Timeline was created using passages from the Brenton’s 1851 Septuagint (LXX) [1]. Kurt Aland is a very well known critical scholar, and in his preface to NTL, he describes his apparatus as a criticus apparatus. I want to read with the eyes of a Hellenized Roman, and the eyes of a Roman proper — with the Eyes of the East and the Eyes of the West. Ἐν ἀρχῂ ἐποίησεν ὁ θεὸς τὸν οὐρανὸν καὶ τὴν γῆν. A perfect equivalent would be a copy of the NRSV that collates against the RSV in an apparatus; by the logic you have offered here, such a text would be "a revised, critical edition of the RSV." ( Log Out /  I disagree with your characterization of the Nova Vulgata Editio as a new version. If I translate along the commonalities: say word x means y much more commonly than it means z, and a word α means β much more often than it means γ. But no, it's the NRSV, not the RSV. The various Syrian Bibles always used a Hebrew-based text (although there was a Syro-Hexaplar version produced in the 7th Century CE). The Nova Vulgata's revisions are not of this kind, but (by intentional policy) in every single case (except for passages where the Vetus Latina is followed, which is another issue) are further departures from the reading of any known or knowable Latin original. “Moreover, the same sacred and holy Synod,—considering that no small utility may accrue to the Church of God, if it be made known which out of all the Latin editions, now in circulation, of the sacred books, is to be held as authentic,—ordains and declares, that the said old and vulgate edition, which, by the lengthened usage … I comment as a Roman Catholic, but I translate as faithful student of Greek, Latin, and (where applicable) Hittite texts. I just now removed it informatively than this blurb III Council of Carthage were attempting to reconstruct Jerome Latin! 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